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Buddhism in the modern world?

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« on: May 27, 2008, 01:55:49 pm »

Second noble truth Suffering is caused by desire and attachment.

Buddhism requires everyone to be the same but by doing this do people not loose their reason for being.

So what is not-suffering without the sense of person sense of being even, does this not loose the reason for living?
In the modern world yes, because this is what we have surcome to, a life of work and clubbing.

This would of suited in older times where their is no such thing as working for profits their is such a thing as working to help a community, if you didn't farm who would eat if you didn't collect the water who would drink and you need these things to stop suffering.

But the modern world we are not farming to help a community we maybe farming in our back gardens to help ourselves though but this may not be needed as we have a chain supermarket down the road of every street.

Can any religion be followed to the extent of being productive in any way but to help ourselves find some sort of faith and meaning to the world when in reality their is no meaning?
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 02:11:15 pm »

One of the reasons I dont believe in bhudisim is that it suffers from the same flaws as most major religions, just like christianity.
It has to use a stick, and it has an aspect of fear based social control about it.
Bhudda didnt write buddist scripture, just like Jesus didnt write the bible, followers, sheep and slower people wrote what they could remember.
The point of life is to live, to experience highs, lows, love hate, attachment, oneness, desire, love, passion, etc.
The entire spectrum of live.
Believe whatevery you want, but believe in yourself first.
We are all just waves on an ocean of energy and our perceptions of that endless ocean are based on what we think it would want.
Religion stands between you and the divine.
Religion is retarded, true spirituality is freedom to live whatever way you like.
Live like a God, do the ocean proud.

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 05:40:15 am »

The more digging I do into any religion the darker it becomes.
But buddhism is the best I can find.

All religions want you to think like them, you can't believe in what you think is right

bbc quote
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The essence of Zen is attempting to understand the meaning of life directly, without being misled by logical thought, or language.

Without being misled by LOGICAL thought.
Thats Zen buddhism by the way.

But then in a later sentance
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The essence of Zen Buddhism is that all human beings are Buddha, and that all they have to do is to discover that truth for themselves.
Does that not go against the belief from the above quotation?

If I ignore the first sentance I think this is the closest thing I can agree to as far as faith goes.

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All beings by nature are Buddhas, as ice by nature is water.

This goes with what you said:
Live like a God, do the ocean proud.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 07:30:11 am »

I do like the idea that buddism has about animals though. helping an animal is as good as helping a human for your karma since we're all beings on different stages of the totem pole and what you do in this life influences the next. In tibet many animals only exist because the bddist culture asks people who don't have much to share their food with the animals.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 11:43:53 am »

The reason for the buddhist religion is to stop suffering in life.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 09:31:17 am »

Not really, as einstein said its all relative, you cant know happiness till you experience some hardship to give you perspective.
The reason for buddhisim is so that a bunch of monkeys with poor memories can attempt to keep alive what little knowledge they gleaned from an enlightened guy hundreds of years ago while striving for the same level of knowledge themselves.
Attempting to renounce the ego so they may become enlightened "which is a somewhat egotistical thing to try to do"
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2008, 04:22:20 am »

Keep your heart clear and transparent and you will never be bound.  A single disturbed thought, though, creates ten thousand distractions. Let myriad things captivate you and you’ll go further and further astray. How painful to see people all wrapped up in themselves.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2008, 07:03:41 am »

Free your mind from the perception that the world is in a bad way.
As viewed so appears.
A single disturbed thought has no power over you as it generally comes from the neo-cortex which is the least energised part of your mind.
If the heart is not behind what you think it has very little power.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2008, 10:21:23 am »

I have noticed that, one of my friends has a lot of negative thoughts yet he doesn't do all that well in certain things.
But myself after I've constantly had good thoughts for like 2-3 months now haven't failed any exams etc.

I'm supprised how much bad thoughts can actually effect anyones life.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 09:59:28 am »

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