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Russia Invades Georgia


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« on: August 08, 2008, 08:52:25 am »

Hi,

Russian forces have invaded georgia, not the US state but the Eastern european country. you'll know them from the last Euro cup.

Apparently when georgia won it's independence from the soviet union, and following a vote last year in their "orange revolution" to elect a pro-western government seeking membership fo the EU and NATO.

The small area of georgia has many russian sympathisers and although ethnically they are georgian when the russian government offered them all free russian passports several years ago most accepted, hence russia is claiming they are russian citizens even though they are ethnically georgian and born in georgia.

Add to all that the following factors and this is quite a storm.

1) georgia is the 3rd largest contributor to bush's coallition in iraq after the US and UK. 2000 georgian troops in iraq.
2) russians invaded the same day as the olympics started. the georgian president said "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he said. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country."
3) Russia is obviously flexing its military muscles against Europe and NATO, intending to steal part of european territory. but we're quite indebt to them for gas and oil.

what do you lot think?Huh
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 09:51:24 am »

As long as it takes the heat of the UK Cheesy.
But personally I believe that bush is a complete twat for using georgian troops in iraq, but I think that they are just poking russia for a responce, only problem then if a full war is opened up bushes but plug is gona go jumping in after them.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 03:09:47 pm »

15 years ago russian forces forced 150,000 georgians out of South Ossettia and now the rest, loyal to russia, have their passports. that's basically ethnic cleansing. now they've taken the whole territory.

No wonder georgia wants to join the EU and NATO if russia is bullying them all the time. I still think the EU and USA ought to bolster Georgian forces to rpevent a full scale invasion and take diplomatic/economic/military action to liberate S. ossettia.

don't forget europe's next with a stonger russia back on the prowl.

jesus ruskies, get over it will you! it was only 100 years ago russia had a decent forign policy and wasn't a complete asshole. what happened? they conquered half of europe and liked the taste of it!
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 07:44:34 am »

I'm just hoping the EU doesn't join in, georgia obviously joined for 1 reason and 1 reason only for EU support.

If the USE joins in russia will take this a step further and their is no doubt about that, personally I've said this for years and years if the UK gets involved with a conflict Vs russia I'm moving to AU.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 02:53:13 am »

The trouble is Russia sees eastern Europe as it's territory and dreams of one day getting it back. never mind that Eastern Europe was ALWAYS eastern Europe, it was only the last 50 years the the Soviet union stole it.

Say what you want about the Americans, at least they don't claim land. In 10 years there'll be no troops in iraq/afghanistan and the US won't have any land there. in 10 years Russian troops will still be in S. ossettia, and arkazia.

I really thinkt he russian attitude to old empires is really a 20th century one and they need to snap out of it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 05:35:36 am »

LOL americans have loads of embassies all around different countries their famous for it, they already have a american embassy in iraq.

You think russia are going to stop trying to gain more land, no chance!
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 09:58:19 am »

The difference i the US attitude is that the US just wants to station a load of military bases in any country with oil and ensure that any regieme in power in these countries plays ball with them, the money is power attitude.
The russians have a land/tanks is power attitude and this is an excercise at flexing military might and using the threat of military force to ensure compliance from other countries.
its all about business, money and ego to these people, using a nations military in a way which benifits the businesses owned by politicians and those politicians feelings of power, wheather its having millions of dirty oil money or invading a small country and killing a load of people in order to appease some retarded politicians ego.
The russian government want to feel powerfull again and with the US setting such a bad example they feel the need to flex some muscle themselves.
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